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	<title>Comments on: Refactoring, Rails, and &#8220;Coding Ruby Correctly&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Java Developer</title>
		<link>http://kurt.karmalab.org/2007/07/26/refactoring-rails-and-coding-ruby-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Java Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, you are brave, I do believe most people no matter where they come from (either from Static Type Land or from the Dynamic Type Land), they all face this problem at some point, but people just never admit it, it&#039;s like &quot;the king with shining new cloth&quot;. they just don&#039;t want to face that, instead they just blame the one who stand up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, you are brave, I do believe most people no matter where they come from (either from Static Type Land or from the Dynamic Type Land), they all face this problem at some point, but people just never admit it, it&#8217;s like &#8220;the king with shining new cloth&#8221;. they just don&#8217;t want to face that, instead they just blame the one who stand up.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowfiend</title>
		<link>http://kurt.karmalab.org/2007/07/26/refactoring-rails-and-coding-ruby-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadowfiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how all of those points were made in one or two comments :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how all of those points were made in one or two comments <img src='http://kurt.karmalab.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Carreira</title>
		<link>http://kurt.karmalab.org/2007/07/26/refactoring-rails-and-coding-ruby-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Carreira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem you&#039;re running into is that the Ruby people commenting have likely never worked on really big systems. Large codebases have problems all their own and require good tools to have half a chance of keeping them maintainable. Java has those tools thanks to Intellij (and the people who have copied them). RoR doesn&#039;t have those tools, and the dynamic nature of Ruby is at least partly to blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem you&#8217;re running into is that the Ruby people commenting have likely never worked on really big systems. Large codebases have problems all their own and require good tools to have half a chance of keeping them maintainable. Java has those tools thanks to Intellij (and the people who have copied them). RoR doesn&#8217;t have those tools, and the dynamic nature of Ruby is at least partly to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: anjan bacchu</title>
		<link>http://kurt.karmalab.org/2007/07/26/refactoring-rails-and-coding-ruby-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>anjan bacchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi there,

  This would be a good time for someone like Kent Beck or Ward Cunningham to get into the picture with a new Refactoring tool for Ruby/Python.

  A good percentage  of developers understand refactoring and the market seems to want it.

BR,
~A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi there,</p>
<p>  This would be a good time for someone like Kent Beck or Ward Cunningham to get into the picture with a new Refactoring tool for Ruby/Python.</p>
<p>  A good percentage  of developers understand refactoring and the market seems to want it.</p>
<p>BR,<br />
~A</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://kurt.karmalab.org/2007/07/26/refactoring-rails-and-coding-ruby-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shadowfiend:

Not in mine! :-)

@Jason:

Java has those tools with IntelliJ, Findbugs, CheckStyle, PMD, JDepend and several others which help you dealing with complexity.

Peace
-stephan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shadowfiend:</p>
<p>Not in mine! <img src='http://kurt.karmalab.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Jason:</p>
<p>Java has those tools with IntelliJ, Findbugs, CheckStyle, PMD, JDepend and several others which help you dealing with complexity.</p>
<p>Peace<br />
-stephan</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://kurt.karmalab.org/2007/07/26/refactoring-rails-and-coding-ruby-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason:

Forgot &quot;Excactly, ...&quot;

Peace
-stephan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason:</p>
<p>Forgot &#8220;Excactly, &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Peace<br />
-stephan</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowfiend</title>
		<link>http://kurt.karmalab.org/2007/07/26/refactoring-rails-and-coding-ruby-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadowfiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stephan: Indeed, it was a couple of the other ones :) The ones that proved your point ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephan: Indeed, it was a couple of the other ones <img src='http://kurt.karmalab.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  The ones that proved your point <img src='http://kurt.karmalab.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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