Ruby: Answer The Damn Question! 7

Posted by Kurt Schrader Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:33:00 GMT

I came across this post today called "Large Enterprises and why they don't care about Ruby". In it, the author says that Large Enterprises don't care about Ruby, which I think is a case that we could argue to an extent, but we don't need to, because there's no "why" in there.

Does:

Name one system Fortune 200 enterprise that has a mission-critical system written in a dynamic language. Of course, you can't.

mean that they don't care about Ruby? No, it says nothing about a company caring about Ruby.

And let's see:

JPMorgan uses Cincom Smalltalk's VisualWorks as the technological "engine" of their KAPITAL system, which is the world's most advanced financial risk management and pricing system. (1)

Fortune 200? Check. Mission-critical? Check. Dynamic Language? Check.

That took all of 30 seconds of Googling.

The rest of the post is similarly lacking in substance. I'm no Ruby zealot, but I was hoping to join the discussion about Ruby’s place in the Enterprise. So answer the damn question, James McGovern, why don’t they care about Ruby?

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    x about 8 hours later:

    If you click on the link on cincom.com, you get a 404.

    If JP Morgan used to care for Smalltalk at some point, they obviously don't any more :-)

    The fact that you could only come up with one example is telling, at any rate.

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    x about 8 hours later:

    Man this comment submission sucks... no feedback at all that the comment is submitted, not even refreshing the page or a confirmation status...

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    Kurt Schrader about 12 hours later:

    X, you clearly missed the point of the post.

    Here's the link for the JPMorgan report:

    http://www.cincom.com/common/success-stories/profiles/jpmorgan.html

    It works for me...

    I'm not sure what's wrong with the comments. When I click submit it seems to post. shrug

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    x about 18 hours later:

    hahahaha... thats a funny link. It would have believable if coming from jpmorgan itself.

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    x about 19 hours later:

    Obviously, posting works, it just doesn't give any feedback that it did.

    As for the link, how about finding one that is actually hosted on jpmorgan.com?

    Good luck with that.

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    x about 19 hours later:

    Ah this time I got a cute animation when I posted. Much better, and pretty neat.

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    James 1 day later:

    Wasn't really thinking about smalltalk as a dynamic language. I guess I could give you a little credit for this small oversight. The posting really was about Ruby though.

    Anyway, the marketplace has already voted with their feet on Smalltalk...

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